Inside sleeve of John Dawson Winter III
John Dawson Winter III
John Dawson Winter III represents a step forward for Johnny, with more emphasis on his exceptional blues-rock guitar work. The record features five new Johnny Winter compositions as well as songs written especially for Johnny by such notables as John Lennon and Rick Derringer. The LP the first by Johnny for the Blue Sky Records (a Columbia Records Custom Label), also server as an introduction for Shelly Yakus as Johnny's producer. This album reaches #78 in the Billboard charts on 7 December 1974.
Production Notes:
LP: CBS PZ33292 (1974)
Producer: Shelly Yakus
Recorded at: The Record Plant East, NYC Recorded at: The Master Cutting Room
- Vocal, Guitar: Johnny Winter
- Bass: Randy Jo Hobbs
- Drums: Richard Hughes
- Percussion: Richard Hughes, Randy Jo Hobbs, Rick Derringer, Paul Prestopino
- Handclaps: The Group
- Piano, Solina Strings, Harpsichord, Organ, Horn Arrangement: Edgar Winter
- Background Vocals: Johnny Winter, Tasha Thomas, Rick Derringer Carl Hall, Monica Burruss, Jackdaw, Dennis Ferrante
- Piano: Kenny Ascher
- Additional Guitar: Randy Jo Hobbs
- Pedal Steel: Rick Derringer
- Banjo, Dobro, Lap Steel: Paul Prestopino
- Buried Highpart: Dennis Ferrante
- Trumpet: Randy Brecker, Bob Millikan, Lou Soloff
- Tenor Saxophone: Mick Brecker
- Trombone: Dave Taylor
- Baritone Saxphone: Lew Del Gatto
- Producer: Shelly Yakus
- Engineer: Eg Sprigg, Dennis Ferrante
- Assistant Enginner: David Thoener
The album John Dawson Winter III, has also been released as a Quadraphonic LP
Band Members:
- Johnny Winter - Guitar, Vocals
- Randy Jo Hobbs - bass
- Richard Hughes - drums
Tracks:
- Rock & roll people
Writer: John Lennon (Lennon Music/ATV Music Corp./BMI/1974)
Lead Vocal: Johnny Winter Guitars: Johnny Winter Bass: Randy Jo Hobbs Drums: Richard Hughes
Percussion: Richard Hughes and Randy Jo Hobbs
Handclaps: The Group - Golden olden day's of rock and roll
Writer: Vic Thomas (Pocketful of Tunes, Inc. & Papa Toad Music, Inc./BMI/1973)
Lead Vocal: Johnny Winter
Guitar: Johnny Winter
Bass: Randy Jo Hobbs
Drums: Richard Hughes
Percussion: Randy Jo Hobbs and Richard Hughes
Handclaps: The rlre p Piano: Kenny Ascher
Backing Vocals: Johnny Winter, Tasha Thomas,
Carl Hall, Monica Burruss
Horn Arrangement: Edgar Winter
Trumpet: Randy Brecker Trumpet: Bob Millikan Tenor Sax: Mike Brecker Trombone: Dave Taylor Baritone Sax: Lew Del Gatto - Self-destructive
blues
Writer: Johnny Winter (Winter Blues Music, Inc./BMI/1974)
Lead Vocal: Johnny Winter Guitar: Johnny Winter Bass: Randy Jo Hobbs Drums: Richard Hughes - Raised on rock
Writer: Mark James (Screen Gems-Columbia Music, Inc. & Sweet Glory Music, Inc./BMI/1973)
Lead Vocal: Johnny Winter
Guitars: Johnny Winter
Bass: Randy Jo Hobbs
Drums: Richard Hughes
Percussion: Richard Hughes and Randy Jo Hobbs
Harpsichord: Edgar Winter
Lap Steel: Paul Prestopino
Backing Vocals: Jackdaw and Dennis Ferrante - Stranger
Writer: Johnny Winter (Winter Blues Music, Inc./BMI/1974)
Lead Vocal: Johnny Winter
Guitars: Johnny Winter
Bass: Randy Jo Hobbs
Drums: Richard Hughes
Piano and Solina Strings: Edgar Winter - Mind over matter
Writer: Allen Toussaint (Marsaint & Warner-Tamberlane Music, Inc./BMI/1974)
Lead Vocal: Johnny Winter
Guitars: Johnny Winter
Bass: Randy Jo Hobbs
Drums: Richard Hughes
Percussion: Randy Jo Hobbs and Richard Hughes
Backing Vocals: Johnny Winter - Roll with me
Writer: Rick Derringer (Derringer Music, Inc./BMI/1974)
Lead Vocal: Johnny Winter
Guitars: Johnny Winter
Bass: Randy Jo Hobbs
Drums: Richard Hughes
Percussion: Rick Derringer and Paul Prestopino
Backing Vocals: Johnny Winter and Rick Derringer - Love song to me
Writer: Johnny Winter (Winter Blues Music, lnc./BMI/1974)
Lead Vocal: Johnny Winter
Guitars: Johnny Winter
Bass: Randy Jo Hobbs
Drums: Richard Hughes
Banjo and Dobro: Paul Prestopino
Pedal Steel: Rick Derringer
Backing Vocals: Johnny Winter
Buried Highpart: Dennis Ferrante - Pick up on my mojo
Writer: Johnny Winter (Winter Blues Music, Inc./BMI/1974)
Lead Vocal: Johnny Winter
Lead and Rhythm Guitars: Johnny Winter
Additional Guitar and Bass: Randy Jo Hobbs
Drums: Richard Hughes
Percussion: Richard Hughes and Randy Jo Hobbs
Handclaps: The Group - Lay down your sorrows
Writers: Cynthia Weil and Barry Mann (Screen Gems-Columbia Music, Inc. & Summerhill Songs, Inc./BMI/1974)
Lead Vocal: Johnny Winter
Guitar: Johnny Winter
Bass: Randy Jo Hobbs
Drums: Richard Hughes
Piano, Solina Strings, and
Organ: Edgar Winter
Backing Vocals: Tasha Thomas, Carl Hall, Monica Burruss
Horn Arrangement: Edgar Winter Trumpet: Randy Brecker Trumpet: Lou Soloff Tenor Sax: Mike Brecker Trombone: Dave Taylor Baritone Sax: Lew Del Gatto - Sweet papa John
Writer: Johnny Winter (Winter Blues Music, Inc./BMI/1974)
Lead Vocal: Johnny Winter
Guitars: Johnny Winter
Bass Drum: Richard Hughes
See also the Johnny Winter Story's single section for the singles based on this album
Comments and Reviews:
JOHNNY WINTER "John Dawson Winter III" (CBS - Blue Sky Import).
Once again, the king of riffs turns up his amp and lets rip with volumes of violent, speedy guitar phrases, fronted by blues vocals.akin to scraping a hairbrush across your tonsils. The pace is frenetic, the sound weighs tons and there's a small gap on the 492nd groove where you can actually stop to breathe. Comparing the many Winter albums is pointless each is a further demonstration of fiery finger ability, rather than an attempt to create rock 'n' roll classics. He IS a rock 'n' roll classic. Included here is the usual popular clan, featuring Edgar Winter, Randy Hobbs, Richard Hughes and, of course, organic adviser (and manager) Steve Paul. Songs are by. Winter, Lennon, Toussaint and Barry Mann. Extremely white lightning. ***LG.
Lack of dynamics
JOHNNY WINTER: "John Dawson Winter III"(Blue Sky, Import)
AT LEAST it's better than "Saints And Sinners"
Come to that, 35 minutes of belching and farting would have been better than "Saints And Sinners," but the replacement of Rick Derringer by Shelly Yakus as Controlmeister has wrought some significant, if minor, improvements.
Most noticeable to these is the ditching of the cluttered, overproduced fell of the last opus in favour of a simpler and more open feel, though the dull, undynamic sound isn't overly appealing.
Since most of you are dead anxious to hear about the album's new Lennon song, "Rock'n Roll People," and since Winter and Yakus have stuck it right up front where we can all get at it, let us do so.
Actually, it's dreadful, and it's quite obvious why Lennon was not particularly anxious to sing it himself. Lines like "my father was a mother/my mother was the sun" aren't too staggering, and Winter doesn't seem particularly thrilled with it himself.
Things have come to a sorry pass when John Lennon gives his best songs to Ringo Starr.
The magic invocation of "Rock And Roll" zooms in again on the very next track, "The Golden Olden Days Of Rock. And Roll", which is another of those take -me -back -to -when -m en-were -men -and -rock-wuz -a-gigfit-for-heroes type efforts. It'd be okay on a juke box, but it's deffo short on the of lustre.
Winter's guitar playing is pretty sluggish throughout,
actually. On "Self-Destructive Blues" (great slide, though) he runs through one of those patented medium 12-bar shuffles he's been knocking out ever since they first allowed him into a studio, but that blazing edge seems to have dulled and he just sounds like any other fast-fingered white blues guitarist.
Only four tracks have anything real to commend them.
"Stranger" is a rather nondescript ballad, but Winter uses a very fetching soft rippling rhythm guitar against a Leslie speaker lead guitar sound, similar to the treatment of "No Time To Live" on the "Johnny Winter And" album.
"Love Song To Me" is a bouncy piece of country hoke with mildly amusing lyrics about how anybody who spends money ou Winterproducts can be a friend of his, and there's agreat Derringer rocker called "Roll With Me." ,
My own personal fave is "Sweet Papa John", a kind of country blues thing with multiple overdub lead guitar againsta solitary bass drum. Pete Erskine sez he likes "Get Next To My Mojo."
I can't- get too enthusiastic about "John Dawson Winter III." There's nothing actively wrong with it, but then it doesn't cause mach of a jump on thetcstatometer either.
Basically, Winter hasn't made a genuinely excellent album since "Stilt Alive And Well," and I'm beginning to worry about the boy.
This album is recommended to Winter completisls only except for those folks who absolutely have to own every song that John Lennon ever wrote.
Charles Shaar Murray
John Dawson Winter III Johnny Winter Blue Sky PZ 33292
by Charley Walters
Johnny Winter, his brother Edgar and Rick Derringer form an American rock triumvirate that knows little competition.. John Dawson Winter III further refines the oldest's progression from an overanxious white bluesman with a strained voice into a tasteful and raunchy rocker. Winter the guitarist is a constant powerhouse who leaves few spaces in his frequent solos. Delivering cluster after cluster of rapidly picked notes or soaring chords, he has developed a discernible, if not virtuoso, style to replace the awkward pastiches of Chuck Berry and B.B. King that flawed his early work. Interestingly, Winter opts for less use of distortion than do most guitarists of this like. He composes smartly. Knowing that even the simplest change can revitalize an otherwise staid 12-bar blues, Winter inserts a time-tested ascending chord sequence into the ninth and tenth bars of "Pick Up on My Mojo." Yet he can also succeed with a humorous country/western aside, and the haunting, gently sung "Stranger, a pop piece reminiscent of Edgar. But it's never a one-man show. Randy Hobbs's bass combines treble tones with the mandatory bottom sound, and muscular drum rolls from Richard Hughes ;propel the meatier tracks which dominate the album. Wisely, Winter continues to borrow from other writers: Derringer, John Lennon and Allen Tousraim are all well represented
John Dawson Winter III is not without flaws his vocal on "Sweet,Papa John," a blues patterned after the earliest Muddy Waters sides, returns to the thin huskiness he has mostly mastered, and the horns on two cuts would have been best omitted. Still, Winter displays an unmistakenly maturity that few rock artists reach.
Johnny Winter in an interview with Allan Jones: So what about the new album, which you've recently completed and which includes a new John Lennon song: "Rock and Roll people"?
I was really glad to get that song, because John's been one of my favourite people for a long time. And I've been hustling for a song from him for three or four albums. When I did the "Still Alive and well" album we called him up and asked if he had any extra rock 'n' roll songs. And he said that if he did have any, he was keeping them for himself because he was just as short of material. Then he was recording at the same studio as us and my producer talked to him and mentioned that I was recording there, and asked again if he had any songs we could use.
"Rock 'n' roll people" he'd written for himself, and had done it. But it hadn't come together right, and he didn't like it for himself, so he gave me the tape and it was just perfect for me.
Some background information provided by Jan.
It took 4 months to complete this LP. There were tons of tapes, acetate demo recordings and sheet music left from this assignment. Van Morrison submitted 15 songs. Everyone wanted to send Johnny their music. Not everyone receives such a response getting material. Fortunately for us Johnny wrote more songs on this album than he had on any previous records. The five song included 3 blues songs, a ballad, and a country western song (a C&W sound that was a completely new sound from him), a country song with a touch of self mockery.
John Lennon wrote the song that appears on this album. He wrote it for himself but didn't like the way he did it that much. Johnny's producer, Shelly Yakus, was working on the sessions for John's Walls and Bridges LP and told John Johnny was doing a record downstairs and asked if he had anything to contribute. He said, "Year , I do," and gave them a demo of the song. Johnny liked it so it was included. John has always been one of Johnny's favorite people and he was very glad to do the song - "Rock and Roll People," sort of a fast shuffle. Johnny recognized that the song had crazy lyrics.
At the time of John's murder much sadness was felt worldwide, after the initial shock my thoughts turned to this song and I wondered how the news hit Johnny. I am sure he is very honored and proud to have one of John's songs on his album.
Johnny gives us a good example of his past experiences in this album. Songs range from basic three piece tunes to the orchestration pieces. This LP showed the old Johnny Winter we know so well to the Johnny Winter we were unfamiliar with. It is way beyond categorization. It seems he goes in every direction he was capable of. He will always keep doing what he has done in the past but keeps himself free to experiment and broaden. All he has ever wanted musically is to broaden what he has been doing and have people accept the things he does well. Seems a most humble request. I try to keep this in mind.
JMHO I have always felt Johnny's greatest demon has been that struggle of the blues playing the blues he lives for and the rock and roll that is inside him too. For his whole career he has been struggling to please his fans and at the same time satisfy himself. It feels the result we witness today may be because of this internal struggle. We are fortunate he has the strength and courage to keep fighting and winning no matter what physical and mental challenges he has to endure each day, no matter what it takes to do what he was born to do - sing and play guitar - in a way that will never be repeated again, and with this comes that crossroad few are either fortunate or prepared to find.
Rolling Stone Magazines review: 'Johnny Winter plays his guitar in a virtuoso style that few if any have mastered'
Charley Walters:
John Dawson Winter III further refines the oldest's progression from an overanxious white bluesman with a strained voice into a raunchy rocker.
Winter the guitarist is a constant powerhouse who leaves fews spaces in his frequent solos. Delivering cluster after cluster of rapidly picked notes or soaring chords, he has developed a discernible, if not virtuoso style to replace the awkward pastices of Chuck Berry and BB King that flawed his early work. Interestingly Winter opts for less use of distortion than do most guitarists of this ilk.
Johnny Winter, his brother Edgar and Rick Derringer form an American rock triumvirate that knows little competition. John Dawson Winter III further refines the oldest's progression from an overanxious white bluesman with a restrained voice into a tasteful and raunch rocker.Winter the guitarist is a constant powerhouse who leaves few spaces in his frequent solos. Delivering cluster after cluster of rapidly picked notes or soaring chords, he has developed a discernible, if not virtuoso, style to replace the awkward pastiches of Chuck Berry and B.B. King that flawed his early work. Interestingly, Winter opts for less use of distortion than do most guitarists of this ilk.
He composes smartly. Knowing that even the simplest change can revitalize an otherwise staid 12-bar blues, Winter inserts a time-tested ascending chord sequence into the ninth and tenth bars of "Pick Up on My Mojo." Yet he can also succeed with a haunting, gently sung "Stranger," a pop piece reminiscent of Edgar.
But it's never a one-man show. Randy Jo Hobbs's bass combines treble tones with the mandatory bottom sound, and muscular drum rolls from Richard Hughes propel the meatier tracks which dominate the album. Wisely, Winter continues to borrow from other writers: Derringer, John Lennon and Allen Toussaint are all well represented. Shelly Yackus's crisp production shows the proper measure of control.
John Dawson Winter III is not without flaws -- his vocal on "Sweet Papa John," a blues patterned after the earliest Muddy Waters sides, returns to the thin huskiness he has mostly mastered, and the horns on two cuts would have been best omitted. Still, Winter displays an unmistakable maturity that few rock artists achieve.
Unknown:
Once again the king of riffs turns up his amp and lets rip with volumes of violent, speedy guitar phrases, fronted by blues vocals. The pace is frenetic, the sound weighs tons and there's a small gap on the 492nd groove where you can actually stop to breathe. Extremely white lightning.
Charles Shaar Murray:
My own personal fave is "Sweet Papa John", a kind of country blues thing with
multiple overdub lead guitar against a solitary bass drum.
JOHN DAWSON WINTER 11 (Blue Sky Sky 80586). Well the man's back again with another album - the only time we really get to hear him apart from the old gig and his annual appearance on OGWT. You should know the format by now - hits it straight at you does our Johnny, no back door subtlety here. The second track, Golden Days of Rock and Roll sums up Johnny's attitude ex actly, and sums up the album come to that John ny couldn't woo a bulldog with that grinding voice of his, but perhaps he isn't trying to, just to get it excited would be enough. M. T.
See also: Time line - 1974, and books Oct 1974.
Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung 12 November 1974 review of John Dawson Winter III
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JOHNNY WINTER «John Dawson Winter 111» (CBS 80 586) Blues-Gitarrist Johnny Winter und seine Begleiter Randy Jo Hobbs (Bass) und Richard Hughes (Schlagzeug) steilen elf neue LP-Tracks vor - darunter fünf Winter-Kompositio- nen, John Lennons «Rock & Roll People» und «Roll With Me» von Ex-Winter-Bandmitglied Rick Derringer. Neben Rick war auch Johnnys Bruder Edgar bei den Plattenaufnahmen mit von der Studio-Partie. Dabei entstand wieder ein weisser Winter-Blues im Kraftfeld zwischen Rock-Rhythmus und gefühlsbetonten Texten. Johnny Winter entwickelt einen mitreissenden Blues-Rock - ganz ohne grossangelegte Arrangements oder komplizierte technische Effekte. Elf Stücke mit dynamischem Zusammen-spiel von Gitarre, Gesang und Bass in meist zügigem Rhythmus. Gegen Ende der ersten LP-Seite kommt Johnnys Leidenschaft gleich bei drei aufeinanderfolgenden Stücken zum Ausdruck: Lange, schwungvolle Gitarrenfiguren von starker Intensität. |
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Rrrrock'n'R000ll!! Johnny-Boy, der unverwüstliche Gitarren-Albino, hat mal wieder gar nicht schlecht zugeschlagen mit diesem Album. Wenn man mal von der Gänsehaut absieht, die sei-ne Gitarren-Solis noch immer hervorzaubert, ist es vor allem Johnny's tierische Stimme, die für den Winter-Sound massgeblich verantwortlich ist. Ansonsten gibt's auf dieser LP beinahe nichts weiter als guten alten Rock. Guter... - wohlgemerkt! Dass John Lennon den Titel "Rock'n'Roll People" geschrieben hat, berichteten wir bereits in der vorigen ME-Ausgabe. Und wenn Mr. Winter meint, dass dies sein bisher gelungenstes Album sei, dann kann ich ihm da auch eigentlich nicht wider-sprechen. Verstehen kann ich nur nicht, warum auf so eine: Platte ausgerechnet noch 'ne Country & Western-Nummer ("Love Song To Me") drauf sein muss. Für Amerika ist das ja vielleicht noch ein Gag... aber für Europa - ich weiss nicht. (***) (lutz) |
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Amerikanischer Sänger und Gitarrist. Singt im Blues-Rock-Stil. Geboren am 23. 2. 1944 in Beaumont (Texas). Wurde entdeckt durch einen Artikel in der amerikanischen Rockzeitschrift "Rolling Stone" 1968. Der New Yorker Clubbesitzer Steve Paul nahm ihn unter Vertrag und brachte ihn zu einer Plattenfirma. 1969 erschien seine erste LP "Johnny Winter". Er trat beim Woodstock-Festival auf, spielte mit Jimi Hendrix und Janis Joplin und wurde so innerhalb eines Jahres Amerikas meistgelobter weißer Blues-Gitarrist. 1971 engagierte er für seine Gruppe die ehemalige Teenbeat- Band McCoys mit Sänger und Gitarrist Rick Derringer, Bassist Randy Hobbs und Schlagzeuger Randy Z. Bis 1974 war Rick Derringer der wichtigste Mann für Johnny. Er komponierte die meisten Songs und produzierte sämtliche Platten. 1974 übernahm er diesen Job als festes Gruppenmitglied bei Johnnys jüngerem Bruder Edgar. Seitdem spielt Johnny Winters Gruppe in dieser Besetzung: Bassist Randy Hobby (geb. 22. 3. 1948 in Winchester), Schlagzeuger Richard Hughes (geb. 31. 3. 1950 in Trenton) und Gitarrist Floyd Radford (geb. 1. B. 1951 in Atlanta). Neueste LP: ,.John Dawson Winter 1l1'. Autogrammadresse: Office of Press and Public Information, 51 West 52nd Street, New York 10 019, USA |








